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NaDs
Joined: 04 Apr 2008
Posts: 9
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 problem with Firmware 2.40?
hey,
just updated to Firmware 2.40
problem is:
harmony remote turns on ps3
the i get stuck at the sign-on screen
have to use the ps3 contoller to log on then have to pair IR2BT with harmony to work again
have to do this everytime i turn my ps3 on
anyone else having troubles???
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:27 am |
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Bob Pariseau
Joined: 30 May 2008
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Yes.
I've isolated this to the following situation:
If the PS3 receives a BlueTooth command from the IR2BT which causes the PS3 to power up, then no further commands from the IR2BT are recognized.
If you power down the PS3 (by any means) and power it up again using either its front panel button or the game controller (either tethered via USB cable or wireless via BlueTooth), the IR2BT works FINE!
[Also, re-pairing the IR2BT will make it work fine.]
While the IR2BT is working (i.e., after powering up the PS3 by some other means, or after re-pairing), powering down with the IR2BT works fine, and any command then sent to the IR2BT causes the PS3 to power up, so the pairing is still good at that point. But no further commands from the IR2BT are recognized after that point, even though the red LED in the IR2BT is flashing indicating it is receiving IR commands.
Using Sony's optional Blu-Ray BlueTooth remote (paired in place of the IR2BT) does not exhibit this problem. You can power up the PS3 by sending any command from that remote and the remote remains functional after that.
With the IR2BT paired, you can also power up the PS3 by pressing the PS button on the game controller (which causes it to send a BlueTooth command to the PS3) and the IR2BT works fine after that.
Apparently some change in V2.40 causes a screw up in the communication between the IR2BT and the PS3, but ONLY when the IR2BT is the controller that causes the PS3 to power up!
For now, the workaround is to power up the PS3 by some other means (front panel button or game controller). The IR2BT will work fine every time after that -- no re-pairing needed.
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I have also discovered that NEITHER a "Restore Default Settings" NOR a "Restore PS3 System" cures this problem.
--Bob
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:11 am |
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NaDs
Joined: 04 Apr 2008
Posts: 9
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yes, as u have said its only when u first turn on your ps3 with the hamony remote it will not work
if turned on by either ps3 controller or actual ps3 , the IR2BT works fine
this is all well and good but annoying
any way to get around this?? -as i no its gonig to annyoing everyone
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:19 am |
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Bob Pariseau
Joined: 30 May 2008
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Since a full "Restore PS3 System" doesn't fix it (and it doesn't) we're going to have to wait for IR2BT and/or Sony to come up with a fix.
What a nuisance! Welcome to the world of bleeding edge technology....
--Bob
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:22 am |
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NaDs
Joined: 04 Apr 2008
Posts: 9
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maybe it was not a mistake by sony, this might be there way of getting around ppl using IR2BT
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:24 am |
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Bob Pariseau
Joined: 30 May 2008
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I strongly doubt there was any intent here. The IR2BT (and its competitors) have been a significant factor in the adoption of the PS3 into serious home theater setups.
It is, almost certainly, just a bug.
--Bob
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:31 am |
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Quoth
Joined: 27 Jun 2008
Posts: 7
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hmm this sounds scary
I doubt that Sony will release an extra fixed firmware just for the few hundred IR2BT users. If it works with the original PS3 remote, Sony will hardly see the problem on their side. So it might not get fixed by Sony at all. And IR2BT has no option to upgrade the firmware AFAIK.
If I have to have the PS3 remote near anyway, what use is IR2BT?
Hopefully Bruce can make the situation clearer before 3:00pm. Otherwise I'd suggest to postpone preordering until this is resolved
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:00 am |
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Kryptix
Joined: 05 Mar 2008
Posts: 266
Location: London, UK
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Uh oh.
This isn't good. I'm worrying for Bruce already!
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:26 am |
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ThyMaster
Joined: 02 Mar 2008
Posts: 94
Location: Germany
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Well, frankly I also think this sounds scary for the whole product (IR2BT).
For the ones that have already bought an IR2BT here's my workaround:
I connected the USB "power cord " from the IR2BT with the PS3. Thus I avoid accidentally turning on the PS3 via IR2BT.
I will use the Sixaxis to turn the PS3 on -or- by just inserting a CD/DVD/BluRay into the slot.
It's not a good but at least working solution.
- ThyMaster
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:21 am |
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Dark_Wizard
Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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I hope Bruce has a solution before the units go on sale today as I am in the market and was prepared to make the purchase....
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:28 am |
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bschell
Joined: 06 Apr 2008
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Wow. This sounds really unfortunate. This was such a great product. Hate to see this happen.
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:45 am |
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Bugg77
Joined: 21 Feb 2008
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This is the second time that Sony has put out a f/w that hosed up a 3rd party IR controller. They did it to the PS3IR when they changed the way the USB port works. Now they've done this... and I have no idea how they managed to break this when their BT remote still works.
One of us will have to try each of the buttons to see if there is one that works or if all of them result in the same problems.
This is a bummer... because if I can't use the IR2BT to power up the PS3, then I might as well use the cheap Nyko remote. I'm rooting for you to find an answer Bruce.
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:59 am |
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Dark_Wizard
Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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Bugg77 wrote:This is the second time that Sony has put out a f/w that hosed up a 3rd party IR controller. They did it to the PS3IR when they changed the way the USB port works. Now they've done this... and I have no idea how they managed to break this when their BT remote still works.
One of us will have to try each of the buttons to see if there is one that works or if all of them result in the same problems.
This is a bummer... because if I can't use the IR2BT to power up the PS3, then I might as well use the cheap Nyko remote. I'm rooting for you to find an answer Bruce.
I'm rooting as well but he needs to respond before 3PM EST so he can get the sales and I'm one of them. Has anyone that has the IR2BT tried to unmarry the device and re-marry it again to see if that helps?
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:08 am |
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bschell
Joined: 06 Apr 2008
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Bugg77 wrote:This is a bummer... because if I can't use the IR2BT to power up the PS3, then I might as well use the cheap Nyko remote. I'm rooting for you to find an answer Bruce.
Yep, hoping for a fix here, as well. But since we can't update the devices, it may fall on Sony. It could affect other products - you never know. The fact that the Bluetooth remote still works isn't very encouraging, though. I already had a Nyko. This worked so much more flawlessly.
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:13 am |
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alb0806
Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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 Isolated Issue
The problem that the IR2BT devices are encountering is definitely an isolated issue as there seems to be no issues with the PS3IR-PRO powering up the PS3 and remaining paired. I tested my unit last night and experienced no issues powering up or powering down the PS3, except with the PowerOff Macro (though this is due to the new method of turning off the system with FW2.4 in a game).
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| Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:22 am |
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